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EternalTempest · Jun 23, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by Neonin

Ignoring all other issues, I'd have to say one of the reasons Europe doesn't win favour as much as America and Korea is that Europe is made up of multiple districts with multiple languages, and native Italians/French/Germans/Spanish tend to stick to their own regions. This means the large group of skilled players we have is split between the regions and often never the twain shall meet, whereas American and Korean skilled players all play in the same districts. This makes it more likely for them to meet up and team up. The language barrier, unfortunatly, segregates the European community.

When it come to the favor of the gods, I think this hits the spot. Also since they added the ability to group more based of languages helps they have a double age sword. It allows for the cultures to more be grouped together and separate from each other yet chance to be more collective as a group.

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Originally Posted by Creston

Guild Wars needs a match making service. PUG groups and such should not have to face off against quality PvP guilds such as SB, n0, or any of the top Korean guilds. If you have fame 1, you should not have to fight someone with fame 8000, because odds are you're going to get slaughtered.

Hopefully Anet will wake up one day, and realize that while losing is pretty much guaranteed at some point in PvP, nobody wants to go up against a team that rapes them so bad they'll just lose all fun in playing. Let the top guilds play each other, and let the lower tiered people play the other lower tiered people.

Creston

I strongly feel this should be implement and I think they are starting to in fact one of the patches mention about more GvG matches off of ladder rank and it would not surprise me if they are developing it further as we speak.

The Asian cultures are far more family / group oriented compared to united states individualism. As for cheating, Gw is one of the most cheat resistant games by design if they find ways around have the tools to quickly fix and ban people (as in recent Ascension bug) and the more randomizing to fight bot problems.

In Final Fantasy XI, good japanese parties are far more numerious then good american parties due to there culture and working together where americans tend to be me me me.

As to people losing interest, Gw is going to wax and wane. You have the initial "new" that draws the people to the newest game out there.

If your only in to PvE and you beat the game twice, your likely to put the game away until the next expansion (which by the hint about stuff in the upcoming patch notes about ascension stuff and not forgotten in the work to prolong interest).

I only see Gw suffering if an competitor can come up with a competing product that can match Gw (which I don't see at this time). Just issuing a price drop on the game would get a flood of new people too.

I personaly gladly pay $50 for my PvE. I've spent this much on other non-pvp games and usually beat them and move on.

Nasenbluten · Jun 23, 2005, 09:56 PM // 21:56

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Originally Posted by Gbuslayer

Holy you racist , the koreans are no better or worse than us, they simply plan more, they don't play any more than the hardcore gamers from the states, theres simply more of them
there are no cheats as far as I know there are macros but there aren't any programs smart enough to be able to predict a randomly generated team of people who make mistakes and do things quite randomly

Actually they could program some healer bots that can gauge on your health they did it in lineage 2 you could have 1 acct running a bot off walker as a healer and your second a main and the bot would follow you and heal you etc
trust me it can be done healing wise damage wise i dont think so unless the bot was made to assist a certain player than again when i look at it it can be done either way lol

Zexion · Jun 23, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

I once lost to the lamest "hax" in HoH.
Someone said something like "To get the ??ber Healing Ankh, press Alt-F4"
About 3 members of my team fell for it-.-

_Zexion

Es Onizuka · Jun 23, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

I'm guessing that alot more teenagers play GW than adults right? Teens seem to have more time on their hands, since adults are mostly working (I'm not saying alot of adults don't play). So wouldn't it be obvious that alot of players aren't online as much because of exam time? We (ya I'm in high school) usually start preparing for exams with a month left of school (ie. end of may/beginning of june). Hopefully this solves your question.

Firestreak · Jun 23, 2005, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Child of Mars

define 'no effect on the enemy'... there's probably some skill combo being used there... obsidian flesh, spellbreaker etc.

Well, one of the occasions was a result of Smite Hex, but what I mean is that nothing happened when i used stuff on that person.

Hey, maybe I'm just an idiot but I still have a strong feeling that a lot of Koreans cheat.

Forscience · Jun 23, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Guild Wars is fun! Other games are not fun. Play Guild Wars!

Kaylynn Of Ascalon · Jun 23, 2005, 10:38 PM // 22:38

not from what I can see. i still can't get into districts because they are full and I find my self starting in district 37 or sum shit all too often. American servers. Now I have some Guild mates that reside in Europe and sometimes we play on the international district which is really low on players it seems.

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29

Ya, I go into international, I see zero people there, yup 0, so then I see a person and type in the 'all' channel "sup" then he goes "wow, finally a real person in this district!"

So, I partied with him and we had lots o fun, I found out what time it was in germany at that specific time and I managed to calculate what time 15:50 was

Navaros · Jun 24, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11

i think Guild Wars will die off because of the reason that most players are gonna get ganked hardcore in PVP

fact is, you cannot succeed in Guild Wars PVP unless you happen to be in a very organized, knowledgable Guild full of dedicated players who come online all the time

most players do not fit into that mold. once they realize that the chance of having any success in PVP (without first being in such a Guild) is virtually zero, then they are going to quit the game

and even if they can organize a good PUG by fluke once in a blue moon - that doesn't help either because to do that usually takes 1hr+ and then after you've done one match, the group disbands because people have to go. hence the casual player is left having to go through that incredibly boring, agonizing, time-consuming process all over again every time he wants to do one single match of PVP

hence they will get frustrated and quit. soon it will be only the hardcore PVP players left in Guild Wars

easiest solution to this problem: put in 1vs1 PVP that lets you get all the same rewards that the other PVP mode gives you (fame etc.)

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

that would be good but what about a warrior/monk vs. a warrior/monk that might take a bit to complete also might get borin quick... some chars are better against other characters so if you vs the character you are bad against then you're screwed... BUT yes I do see teh good of depending on yourself!

Forbidden Angel · Jun 24, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Well, you just gotta admit, koreans are hardcore gammers. Just like what Santosh said, Koreans have an Elite gamming culture. Their minds are so stragetic with all of the gamming knowledge that they have. They are pretty much the competition in PvP with us anyways. Not only that, but they have players with, like what? gold medals in playing games? who knows. Being 1337 core gammers is in their blood. Probably runs in their families too. =]

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31

lol good point

Yamat · Jun 24, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Interesting fact: Korea has more residential broadband connections as a percentage of the population than any country in the world.

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33

kewlio, never knew that before... hey do you have any interesting facts on mongolia

love that place!! No clue why though...

Yamat · Jun 24, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Mongolia... best BBQ?

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50

nope, no clue why, but MONGOLIA, I mean I got books outta the library on mongolia

Shadowdaemon · Jun 24, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Kaylee Ann

EA (the guild I am in) held the halls yesterday afternoon for awhile and half the night. LoD took it from us in the afternoon and held it for a good 2 hours after us. So between 2 American guilds the halls was controlled by America for almost 1/3 of a 24 hour period. Maybe if you quit complaining and blaming everything on losing to the Koreans except for the fact that you suck you might actually win sometimes.

I love how everyone's excuse for losing always resorts to hacks or some other BS reason.

EXACTLY!!!! whether you wanna use the term racism, or stereotype(yes, much prettier) its all the same, you all talk on and on about how magically wonderful anyone from the korean server is, yet somehow people in the servers with such enormous disadvantages, like our primitive computers, and our horrible selfish attitudes still manage to win quite often, geez i guess their hacks quit working at a certain time of the day or something, or maybe they watched an american show on tv and their society instantly disolved.... either way, thank god we found a way past the super-race of videogame genious hackers......

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11

I had a guild battle vs. koreans and for some reason when I smashed him with my best combo moves and it seemed it didnt do squat dmg...

was it buffs... armor... strategy what?

Loviatar · Jun 24, 2005, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar

I had a guild battle vs. koreans and for some reason when I smashed him with my best combo moves and it seemed it didnt do squat dmg...

was it buffs... armor... strategy what?

you got it on the first try.

buffs... armor... strategy

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 24, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23

lol kk ty just curious

Jun 23, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#84
Es Onizuka Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Masters of the World Profession: W/E	I'm guessing that alot more teenagers play GW than adults right? Teens seem to have more time on their hands, since adults are mostly working (I'm not saying alot of adults don't play). So wouldn't it be obvious that alot of players aren't online as much because of exam time? We (ya I'm in high school) usually start preparing for exams with a month left of school (ie. end of may/beginning of june). Hopefully this solves your question. Last edited by Es Onizuka; Jun 23, 2005 at 10:17 PM // 22:17..

Jun 24, 2005, 01:11 AM // 01:11	#89
Navaros Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Mo/Me	i think Guild Wars will die off because of the reason that most players are gonna get ganked hardcore in PVP fact is, you cannot succeed in Guild Wars PVP unless you happen to be in a very organized, knowledgable Guild full of dedicated players who come online all the time most players do not fit into that mold. once they realize that the chance of having any success in PVP (without first being in such a Guild) is virtually zero, then they are going to quit the game and even if they can organize a good PUG by fluke once in a blue moon - that doesn't help either because to do that usually takes 1hr+ and then after you've done one match, the group disbands because people have to go. hence the casual player is left having to go through that incredibly boring, agonizing, time-consuming process all over again every time he wants to do one single match of PVP hence they will get frustrated and quit. soon it will be only the hardcore PVP players left in Guild Wars easiest solution to this problem: put in 1vs1 PVP that lets you get all the same rewards that the other PVP mode gives you (fame etc.) Last edited by Navaros; Jun 24, 2005 at 01:14 AM // 01:14..

Jun 23, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#83
Zexion Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Warrior Nation [WN] Profession: N/Me	I once lost to the lamest "hax" in HoH. Someone said something like "To get the ??ber Healing Ankh, press Alt-F4" About 3 members of my team fell for it-.- _Zexion

Jun 23, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#86
Forscience Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Supreme Beings of Leisure Profession: W/Mo	Guild Wars is fun! Other games are not fun. Play Guild Wars!

Jun 23, 2005, 10:38 PM // 22:38	#87
Kaylynn Of Ascalon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: California	not from what I can see. i still can't get into districts because they are full and I find my self starting in district 37 or sum shit all too often. American servers. Now I have some Guild mates that reside in Europe and sometimes we play on the international district which is really low on players it seems.

Jun 24, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29	#88
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	Ya, I go into international, I see zero people there, yup 0, so then I see a person and type in the 'all' channel "sup" then he goes "wow, finally a real person in this district!" So, I partied with him and we had lots o fun, I found out what time it was in germany at that specific time and I managed to calculate what time 15:50 was

Jun 24, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#90
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	that would be good but what about a warrior/monk vs. a warrior/monk that might take a bit to complete also might get borin quick... some chars are better against other characters so if you vs the character you are bad against then you're screwed... BUT yes I do see teh good of depending on yourself!

Jun 24, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25	#91
Forbidden Angel Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: California, U.S Guild: Slash Afk [afk] Profession: R/Me	Well, you just gotta admit, koreans are hardcore gammers. Just like what Santosh said, Koreans have an Elite gamming culture. Their minds are so stragetic with all of the gamming knowledge that they have. They are pretty much the competition in PvP with us anyways. Not only that, but they have players with, like what? gold medals in playing games? who knows. Being 1337 core gammers is in their blood. Probably runs in their families too. =]

Jun 24, 2005, 01:31 AM // 01:31	#92
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	lol good point

Jun 24, 2005, 01:32 AM // 01:32	#93
Yamat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego, USA	Interesting fact: Korea has more residential broadband connections as a percentage of the population than any country in the world.

Jun 24, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33	#94
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	kewlio, never knew that before... hey do you have any interesting facts on mongolia love that place!! No clue why though...

Jun 24, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#95
Yamat Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego, USA	Mongolia... best BBQ?

Jun 24, 2005, 01:50 AM // 01:50	#96
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	nope, no clue why, but MONGOLIA, I mean I got books outta the library on mongolia

Jun 24, 2005, 11:11 PM // 23:11	#98
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	I had a guild battle vs. koreans and for some reason when I smashed him with my best combo moves and it seemed it didnt do squat dmg... was it buffs... armor... strategy what?

Jun 24, 2005, 11:23 PM // 23:23	#100
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	lol kk ty just curious